The 2017 New Year’s Run at Madison Square Garden marked the first test drive of Trey’s newly rebuilt Custom Audio Electronics rig with Phish in a live setting. There was plenty of tweaking between the official CAE rebuild and the time Trey walked on stage at MSG (and even some afterward!), and some of the details of that effort are detailed in a piece I’ve written for JamBase. The specifics of the current rig as it appears at MSG are below.
Note that there are 3 total octave devices (Whammy II, POG2, OC-2) and 2 envelope filters (MuTron, MXR Bass EF). These are related stories. The Whammy II is a great pitch bender and harmonizer, but not a great octave pedal, particularly for the octave-down setting, where the Whammy tends to generate a lot of undesirable distortion. So the Whammy is no longer used for octave down. The OC-2 is used for mild octave-down sounds, and sometimes might even go unnoticed. The POG 2, which has multiple presets, 2 octaves down, 2 octaves up, and a built-in effects bank, is for the more intense, ethereal, haunting octave-down sounds, and was also used for a flute/synth-like octave up effect during Tube. Relatedly, the MuTron is for standard quacking in the typical guitar frequency range, but since Trey is doing so much work in the 2-octave-down range, the MXR Bass EF was necessary to filter those frequencies.
Amplification: Komet Trainwreck 60. EL-34 tubes. One is backup.
Cabinets: 2 Komet Ambikabs. Each Trainwreck 60 has its own dedicated Ambikab, and each Ambikab has its own effects loop, set up in trays in the new rack (see below).
Mics: Trey’s rig is mic’d by a Shure SM-57 and a Royer SF-12. Trey also uses SE GuitarF Reflexion Filters to isolate these mics.
Guitars: Koa #1; Backup was Koa 2. Old Reliable was backstage.
Floor:
• Boomerang
• CAE RST-24 Audio Switcher (see channel listing below)
• CAE RST Expander x 2 (see channel listing below)
• Dunlop CAE Wah MC404
• Digitech Whammy II
• 2 Expression pedals (feedback and level for both Ambikab Time Factors)
• Boss Expression pedal for CAE Super Tremolo speed control
Rack:
Top Plate:
• EHX POG 2
• Boss OC-2
• TS-808
• Beigel Mu-Tron 3x Envelope Filter
• MXR Bass Envelope Filter
• Moog 104M Analog Delay
Bottom Tray:
• Klon Centuar
• Ross Compressor
• Shin-Ei Univibe
• MXR/CAE Line Driver
Ambikab Tray 1:
• Eventide Time Factor
• Eventide Space Reverb 2 [always set to “Plate” setting]
Ambikab Tray 2:
• Eventide Time Factor
• Eventide Space Reverb 3 [always set to “Plate” setting]
Experimental Tray: TS-808.
Rack units:
• CAE/Bradshaw Tremolo
• Alesis Microverb
• Furman Power Conditioner
• Korg DTR-2 Tuner
• Ibanez DM-2000
• CAE Custom Series Audio Controller x 2
• Eventide Space Reverb 1
CAE Expander 1:
Channel |
Effect |
A |
Hold (TimeFactor repeats) |
B |
Vintage (TimeFactor setting) |
C |
Band (TimeFactor setting) |
D |
OFF (bypasses TimeFactor) |
CAE Expander 2:
Channel |
Effect |
A |
FishHole (Space Reverb #1 setting) |
B |
Shimmer (Space Reverb #1 setting) |
C |
Spring (Space Reverb #1 setting) |
D |
Micro (bypasses Microverb) |
RST 24 Midi Controller Channel Comparison Chart:
Channel |
CAE December Rebuild |
MSG NYE Run |
1 |
Leslie Speed |
Leslie Speed |
2 |
Victoria Reverberato |
Victoria Reverberato |
3 |
Bradshaw Tremolo |
Bradshaw Tremolo |
4 |
Bass Envelope Filter |
Bass Envelope Filter |
5 |
DM 2000 |
DM 2000 |
6 |
DM 2000 MOD function |
DM 2000 MOD function |
7 |
DM 2000 HOLD function |
DM 2000 HOLD function |
8 |
CAE Wah |
CAE Wah |
9 |
Leslie ON/OFF |
Leslie ON/OFF |
10 |
Space (pre) |
Space (pre) |
11 |
Mutron |
Mutron |
12 |
Shin-Ei Univibe |
Shin-Ei Univibe |
13 |
Boss OC-2 |
Boss OC-2 |
14 |
Moog Analog Delay |
Moog Analog Delay |
15 |
? |
POG |
16 |
Whammy II |
Whammy II |
17 |
Tuner and Amp A/B |
Tuner and Amp A/B |
18 |
Trey 94 |
Ross |
19 |
TS-808 |
808-Less |
20 |
Klon |
Klon |
21 |
POG |
808-More |
22 |
MOOG tap |
MOOG Tap |
23 |
Eventide tap |
Eventide Tap |
24 |
Boomerang |
Boomerang |
This website is amazing thanks for the great work and happy new year!
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Sounded great on 12/29!
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Sweet!
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What happened to the Koa #3? The one with the Ocelot Inlay on the headstock? Curious why we never see it anymore.
Thank You for the site and all of the great detail – I love it.
Cheers
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Not sure. Brand new guitars can take some time to break-in. They start with a glassy, bright sound that’s not always desirable. As the glue hardens and the woods dries out, they get the warmer, softer sound that we generally find pleasing to the ear. So he may just be letting it age. Or maybe he’s worried about it getting road-worn.
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what speakers is he using? Celestions G-12? Tone tubby purple haze?
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So which effect is the “feedback” pedal controlling?
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My understanding is that it controls the Eventide TimeFactor repeats.
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The Leslie cab looks like the “studio” model and not the G37 model…
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It’s the G-37. I have a close-up I can post.
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Love the video examples. Proud to be subscriber #2!
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What type of rack is the “Cat” rack with the cool red handles?
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What type of rack is that “Cat” rack with the cool red handles??
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Gator- it is not pro level and is not shock mounted.
The entire rack rides inside a shock mount roadcase for transport
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the KOA3 was mainly used for the Fare Thee Well tour and shortly after. The OG Languadoc just needed to shine for the 90s grab they attempted at MSG
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I believe he used Old Reliable (Blonde, Padauk) for FTW.
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I believe the Leslie Cab is not the G-37 guitar model but the “Studio 12+” model.
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It’s the G-37. I’ll post a better picture.
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The YouTube link in your second paragraph seems to be broken.
Can you point us to the video where the POG-2 is used?
Thanks for the awesome site !
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Hi Rick – I fixed the link, thanks. The video is here: https://youtu.be/Zvp7NnWW3L0
Also check out the Audio and Video samples page: https://treysguitarrig.com/treys-pedals/audio-video-samples/
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So all his reverb is from Eventide Space pedals at this point?
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It looks like the Alesis Microverb is still in the rack. I would love to know how much / often he is using the Microverb vs Space, and if he leaves one of them on all of the time?
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Does anybody have any insight on how often / when is he using the Klon vs TS vs Amp overdrive?
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I own a time factor and the only way to switch delay types via midi is by creating presets and sending PC messages to the unit. His units are not in preset mode (or you would see i.e. 1:1 which represents the bank # : preset # )… Would be interesting to understand how this is working.
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It is midi- on the Bradshaw rig it is set so if NO pgm is selected it defaults to say 1.1 pgm 000
Switches can be assigned to send changes so if you want bandpass you could set up a switch to send pgm 005 or whichever and select that… click if off and timefactor returns to 000 ( or any 000-127 pgm you want). And maybe you have another switch set to 015 – same thing and so on until you run out of switches. Midi can also be used to control mix and feedback as well as tap tempo/ clock most of the setup is on the time factor
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I have a DM 2000 as well but don’t really find it useful. Can anyone shed light on this and how Trey uses it?
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Trying to make sense of the Eventides…
Seems Trey always has 1 Space set to Plate for the Ambikab – this is his standard always on reverb…never turns on or off….100% wet, blended to taste in parallel, set and forget….correct?
The other Space he has is not in the Ambikab, but before the front end of the amp – is Trey just using the Fishole, Spring, and Shimmer settings based on the footswtich, or is he also using the algorithms listed on the sheet? I zoomed in and cross referenced the Eventide Algo list and got the following algorithms from Trey’s sheet (see below)….curious if he just settled on the Shimmer, Spring and Fishhole algos, and if so how he is using them? I am curious about his use of the Spring Reverb mainly, since it’s more of a standard type of reverb rather than an ambient effect like Fishole or Shimmer. Perhaps he’s using a more intense Spring (then fed into the always on Plate?)
Room: room 667, canismajor
Plate: Plate
Reverse: Reverse
Shimmer – Nero’s Ascent, Shimmer
Spring – Spring
Blackhole – Fishole, Centaurus, Vortexting
Tremolo Verb – Broken Glitch, Splitter Verb, Horror Show
Dynaverb – Tap and Trem,
Finally, the Timefactor is also in the Ambikab, in parallel with the plate reverb – 2 types of Delay – Vintage Digital or Band Pass – mix/feedback control via expression, as well as off and hold – It seems he is using the Bandpass for a more obvious delay, similar to how he uses the Moog (rhythmic repeats, high mix)….wondering though if this delay is more typically used along with the Plate reverb just for general ambience?
Any details as to how he’s setting his presets or using these Eventide Effects would be great. Thanks!
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what type of Mic is Trey using on the 10″ wet speakers on the Ambikab? It seems there a 57 blended with Royer on the dry – not sure on the wet
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Question! I have read a lot of different write ups on Trey and his rig for like 20 years.
Hard to tell from photos and video. But what does trey have his action set usually or what are the measurements I should say?
I have heard he sets his Langeudoc to medium low action. I know Stevie Ray Vaughn had it set to high sometimes with 13 gauge strings. However, that would be hard for most quitar players. And it’s SRV playing heavy blues. Trey is way more of a versatile guitar player in my opinion.
(Trey Plays a lot of different styles of guitar really any style of guitar he wants to in the moment).
Also Anyone know if he changes it or each Doc is set differently.
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